PLEASE COME O LORD

Below is an alternate view on the time frame of the Reappearance, presented as an analysis. While STKC is happy to discuss different viewpoints regarding Swami’s Reappearance, we would like to leave it to the reader’s discretion and interpretation as to what he/she will take away from these articles. Please also read the "disclaimer"

By Karthikeyan

Sairam to all fellow SKTCians, 

I humbly request you to take the below article only as an analysis and not as a prediction on the date of Swami’s Reappearance. Only Bhagawan knows His plans and His Day of Reappearance.

Brother Sreejith receives requests from many STKC readers to provide analyses (like this article) or any clues/pointers to His reappearance. At the same time he also receives criticism (which is quite understandable and done in a loving manner) from some other STKCians for publishing articles with such analysis. 

This article is published mainly for the sake of those devotees who would relish such an analysis. Others kindly bear with me if this causes any inconvenience to you.

I also understand that there are devotees who would get very disappointed if Swami does not appear on an expected date. For those devotees, I request you to believe that certainly there is another day on the horizon which will turn out to be the “BIG DAY” - the day of Swami’s Reappearance. Until then let us keep our hopes alive.

 

By Swamis Grace, in 2014, I had come up with an analysis titled “Importance of Vaikunta Ekadesi Day” published on December 25, 2014. Again, by His Grace alone, this analysis turned out to be correct based on certain dream/vision interpretations early this year. Accordingly, we presume that Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba returned on the day of Vaikunta Ekadesi (December 31, 2014 - January 1, 2015). Now the question is when the Reappearance will be made known. In this article, we will discuss the possibilities.

(The article ““Importance of Vaikunta Ekadesi Day” can be considered as the Part 1 and the present article as the Part 2. To read the Part 1 please follow the link: http://saikingdom.com/devotees/dreams/749-importance-of-vaikunta-ekadesi)

In this article, I have given three possible dates: 

1  
December 21, 2015, Monday


November 23, 2015, Monday

3  
December 25, 2015, Friday

 

First we shall discuss about December 21, 2015

 

This year Vaikunta Ekadesi falls on December 21, 2015. Will He make His Reappearance known in this current year on the same Vaikunta Ekadesi day? 

Vaikunta Ekadesi is the holiest day of the year and I have already written about the significance of this day in the article mentioned before (For your convenience the link is provided here once again: http://saikingdom.com/devotees/dreams/749-importance-of-vaikunta-ekadesi)

Since we believe Swami re-emerged on the holiest day of the previous Vaikunta Ekadesi, there is a chance that He may make His Reappearance known in a grand way on the same Vaikunta Ekadesi day of this year – which falls on December 21, 2015.

Some pointers to this date

In the year 2012, in meditation to Sri Vasantha Sai, Swami told that He will come on December 21st. However it did not happen that year. So there is a chance that it may happen this year. Surprisingly this year the Vaikunta Ekadesi too comes on December 21, 2015.

 27th October 2012 Evening meditation

 Vasantha: Swami, what have You written about Mother Mary?

 Swami: You are like the Virgin Mary. I will come in December like Jesus.

 Vasantha: Now I understand Swami. I will write.

 End of meditation

 2nd November 2012 Morning meditation
 
 Vasantha: Swami, when will You come?

 Swami showed me a Vision

 Lord Indra comes and asks,

 "Swami is Your coming for sure? Is it confirmed?"

 Swami, "Sure, I will come on 21 December."

 Indra replies,

 “Swami, all Devas and Rishis want to celebrate that day."

 Swami says,

 "Okay... let all celebrate. I will surely come. This has never happened in the world so far. "

 Indra disappear

 18th November 12 meditation

 Vasantha: Swami please come in December.

 Swami: Sure I will come. Before this, I will give some indication.

 Vasantha: Now I understand Swami.

The above has been taken from Sri Vasantha Sai’s writings


From the above points there is a great chance of Baba making His Reappearance known on December 21, 2015, the Vaikunta Ekadesi day of 2015.
 


Now we shall discuss about the Second possibility: November 23, 2015


As we all know, November 23, 2015 is Swami’s 90th Birthday, a significant milestone event and many of us believe that will be the turning point. Recently brother Sreejith had posted a clipping from Swami’s Discourse on His 79th Birthday that points to such a possibility (You may watch that video clipping here: http://www.saikingdom.com/articles/all-articles/790-a-crucial-clue).

Readers may also recall that last year Swami came in my dream and said, “Come to Parthi on the Pradhosham day which comes in the month of Karthigai”

(Karthigai month and Pradosham day are special and holiest, and you may read that article here: http://www.saikingdom.com/devotees/dreams/679-the-significance-of-pradosham). 

However, nothing significant happened on that particular day (previous year). 

However, it is interesting to note that the same confluence (Pradosham day in Karthigai month) occurs this year too, rather astonishingly on November 23, 2015! Since Swami did not mention the year in my dream last year, there is a possibility for Swami’s Reappearance being made known on this day of 2015.

 

Third possibility: December 25, 2015


December 25th, being the Christmas day, is already an auspicious one. This year it falls on a Friday which is also a full moon day. Moreover, the star on that date is Thiruvadhirai which is the Birth Star of Bhagawan Baba.

 

Conclusion - "Probable" Dates

1 
Vaikunta Ekadesi Day - December 21, 2015

OR

2 
Karthigai Pradosham Day and Bhagawan’s 90th Birthday - November 23, 2015

OR

3 
Full Moon, Thiruvadhirai star and Christmas - December 25, 2015 

 

Comments 

James Cooper
James Cooper2015-11-10 17:47#
Karthikeyan, are you a Vasantha Sai Bhaktha? Have you been to visit her?
Also, what is your take on the Muddenhali situation?
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KARTHIKEYAN
KARTHIKEYAN2015-11-11 05:26#
To James Cooper; Swami Himself has Autographed the manuscript of one of the books of Sri Vasantha Sai. So In Terms of That, I respect her as a Noble Soul. Still I did not have an opportunity to meet Sri Vasantha Sai.

I do not have any idea about Muddenahalli Happenings.
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Krishnan
Krishnan2015-11-10 17:48#
OM Sri Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Babaya Namaha Om

NAMO NAMAHA
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Latha Sairam
Latha Sairam2015-11-11 01:34#
Thank you Brother Karthikeyan. I feel so happy to discuss different view points on Swami's reapperance.
Sharing my thoughts....
"Probable" Dates(FRIDAYS) 2015:

November: 13, 20, 27
December: 4, 11, 18, 25

Sai, Thy Kingdom Come...
...Come May It Soon!
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P C NAYAK, HYDERABAD, INDIA
P C NAYAK, HYDERABAD, INDIA2015-11-11 04:34#
Sairam,
First of all, my humble pranam at the lotus feet of our beloved Swami. Also Happy Diwali to Swami and all sincere viewers of this website. All my best wishes for Brother Sreejith Sairam. Though the exact date is not known, I am very happy that due to this website, I am able keep my mind always towards Swami. I felt very lonely as the website was not available for two days, may be due to technical reasons. In addition to above analysis, I have noticed two very interesting points at Muddhenahalli. Surprisingly, Swami has not fixed any foreign tour nor any programmes at Muddenhalli after November 25th 2015. Secondly, One Sairam, who was coming twice every week to Muddenhalli to note down the Discourses of Swami and sending to all of us by mail, was told through Madhusudan to stop the work. I had also read one news from Muddenhalli that Swami has told one student that the 90th Birthday would be turning point of Human History. So, I am very confident that Swami will do some miracle during November and December 2015 without any doubt.
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radha
radha2015-11-11 05:46#
Sairam......thank you brother for the analysis... HE alone knows how much we are pining for HIM SWAMY.......
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radha
radha2015-11-11 05:55#
Sairam... had a dream few days back where SWAMY is standing ( i am there with HIM ) and telling some devotees " when i come to Singapore next year... " and could not catch HIS next words.... since HE has gone to Singapore few times in subtle form , i felt that SWAMY was mentioning about HIS visit in HIS physical form... JSR
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Jim Martineau
Jim Martineau2015-11-11 08:24#
Thank you and Sai Ram ...Karthikeyan,

Yes...I also feel that either November and/or December, 2015 will be such a perfect time for Swami to reveal Himself to those whose Crave LOVE, PURITY...... TRUTH!!!!!!!!

Om Jai Sai Ram

May we all be applying the TRUTH PRINCIPLES that Swami has given us...moment to moment to moment!!!!!!!

WE ARE GOD!!!! that is the TRUTH!!!!!

may we BELIEVE this...and FEEL this and THINK this and SPEAK this and ACT this!!!!!!!!! ....moment to moment!!!! ...until all ego traits are dropped!!!!!!!!

let us not forget GAYATRI MA!!!!!!! Swami and Gayatri Ma are one and SAME ....and indeed each of us ...in TRUTH are that SAME SELF!!!!!!

may we chant the Gayatri Mantra

and live each moment as GOD incarnate!!!!!!!!!
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suneesh
suneesh2015-11-11 19:04#
A few days ago Swami had given me a dream which was similar to one of the articles published but He added that "I do give date of My return to everyone, but I watermark it"
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shehana
shehana2015-11-12 04:19#
SAIRAM, Thank you for keeping our hopes high. Iam a daily visitor of the site, everyday I open it with high expectations , to get new dates, interpretations, or dreams/visions. Nice photo.Mind blowing sight of bhagavan through the window.Our eyes are longing to have your darshan baba, please come soon, we love you.
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Ramu GSV
Ramu GSV2015-11-12 04:31#
Muddenahalli happennings are confusing. To deify, in a way, Madhusudhan, by some people, by giving letters to him, taking pada namaskar etc is like making a god out of an ordinary man. When the team came to Hyderabad this month for a school function I was there. I saw Madhusudan "escorting" Swami, making way for Him, giving him a seat and then taking Him to the stage and then continuously looking at His seat and making out the discourse. This means, Swami speaks and He listens and translates and Swami did not "possess" him. But while returning after the function, people lined on both sides and I did not see Madhusudan "escorting out" Swami. When people ask Him questions, He is "supposed to look at Swami, listen to what He says and convey back". But all answering was spontaneous and not looking at the escorting swami. This was confusing. Because he himself was answering.

Also, for foreign tours if Swami can come directly to the venue, why does he not for local functions? Where is the need for car for Subtle body. It makes not sense......Swami can come directly to His seat.

I am not at all convinced. BUT the presence of highly respected, highly evolved souls like Narasimhamurthy and Issac Tigret in the group accepting this theory and happenings is what makes me NOT DISMISS the possibility.
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Joy
Joy2015-11-13 01:59#
As you think, so you become!

"Four stages are mentioned in the spiritual progress: Saalokya (being in the Palace), Saameepya (being in the immediate Presence), Saaruupya (being privileged to be clothed with a share of regal authority) and Saayujya (becoming King oneself)."

Madras, 23-12-1971 www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume11/sss11-35.pdf

"Then, the Saaruupya stage is reached when the devotee is so near, so kin, that he wears the "royal robes"--a brother, for example, can wear the same robes. So he has the same ruupa, he has the splendour, the glory that bespeaks the full blossoming of the Divine that is latent in him."

Shivaraathri Festival March 1966 www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume06/sss06.pdf
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Nagaraja. N
Nagaraja. N2015-11-16 05:42#
Hi Sai Ram to all, I too respect Mr. B.N. Narasimha Murthy's dreams and his opinions about Swami's subtle body and His continued work in MuddenaHalli. Because Shri B.N Murthy sir is not an ordinary soul, a chosen soul for Swami's Mission.Shri. He himself has cut off all those worldly connections at the age of 19 and surrendered himself at the lotus feet of Swami. Since then he has been acting according to Swami's guidance. He has already crossed the age of 70. Now, if we think that Shri. B.N. Murthy sir is craving for worldly desires, that is our FOOLISHNESS. Just remember one thing, if Murthy sir had worldly desires, Swami would never have chosen him as ROLE MODEL and WARDEN for His university and His students. SWAMI'S DECISION IS ALWAYS CORRECT. Are we dare enough to find fault in this? Moreover Swami also selected him to write Holy Biography of Swami i.e. Sathyam Shivam Sundaram 5th part on wards. In Prashanthi Nilaym Campus, hundreds of great scholars are there, great intellectuals are there, great professors and pundits are there, but Swami permitted only Shri B. N. N Murthy Sir to continue Prof. N. Kasturi's work. Why? Just think. He is a chosen soul and blessed one. He dedicated his whole life to Swami and Swami's work. It is very easy to comment on Mr. BNNM but it is not so easy to lead a sacred life like Mr. Murthy Sir. Many people are using their So-called rationalism and so-called intellectualism to criticize Mr. BNN Murthy Sir. I have also seen those terms and phrases used by these people to criticize Mr. Murthy Sir. All those are old one used by those so-called rationalists and so-called intellectuals to criticize OUR BELOVED SWAMI during His life time. For example, " Fund Raising" "Rich people's God" "Accumulating Money" "Service by rich people's money" etc. Before using such terms we should pray to Swami, Swami will guide us. Swami himself legally accepted and embraced both ALIKE and MUDDENAHALLI institutions as his own and fostered them. Swami once said these two institutions are just like Swami's Two Eyes, Swami had special love for these institutions and was always paying visits to these places. He always showered His pure love towards hundreds of Brahmacharis here who dedicated their life to Swami. Recently many people consider the entire Muddenahalli group itself is FAKE one, Is it fair? What kind of INTELLECTUALISM is it ??? Moreover Swami has thousands of ways to manifest Himself or to show His Divinity. How can we restrict Him? Subtle body may also be one way, who knows?. In this world if someone is doing Swami's work without obstruction in a grand scale, there must be Swami's Grace. So instead of criticizing rubbishy, let us love Swami and pray to Swami, He will certainly guide His children. We are Swami's children, then why baseless comments, baseless criticism etc?? Let us love Swami more and more He will solve all problems if we think something wrong is going on. With Sai Pranamas to all
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Yaani Drucker
Yaani Drucker2015-11-16 15:37#
Thank you dear Nagaraja, very well written. Al, who knew Brother Narasimha Murthy personally, could not find a more saintly servant of the Lord.
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Naren
Naren2015-11-17 19:03#
By same logic, nobody can question the wisdom, dedication, or devotion of professor Anil Kumar (just an example) as well.

We are not here to credit different devotees. At the moment, the whole world knows the events and controversies surrounding light body. Let that play out by itself. Who knows how beautiful the drama might climax to?

The STKC is an awesome forum. In fact, this is the only forum with an idea that nobody locks horns against because the very thought of Swami's return keeps the last lamp of hope to save the world flickering.

Though I am not a part of the team, in the best interest of STKC that expects Swami to grant His physical darshan to all over the world, I sincerely request all patrons of STKC to leave MDH out of this until Swami's return - the return that we all expect, beyond which there will be not be explanation required for MDH anymore. There are other platforms to debate this light body idea at this point.

I hope my intentions are appreciated.

Sairam
Naren
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Joy
Joy2015-11-16 21:17#
'God may perform any action that He likes for the benefit of the world….. and depending on the prayers of the devotees, God will take a particular form'

"God’s actions can be described as leelas. No one can determine the nature of such leelas. It is also not possible to understand them. Only after the event has taken place, can one realise its significance. Because such leelas are generally covered by Maya, man is not able to recognise the divinity that is responsible for them."

"God is an independent entity in all aspects. Several people say that God should be like this and conduct himself in a particular manner, but this is not possible. For one who is above gunas, how can there be any particular qualities? For one who is formless, how can there be any limitations of form? God may take any form and may have any gunas, and he may perform any action that he likes for the benefit of the world. This will be determined as a reaction to the actions of the devotees; and depending on the prayers of the devotees, God will take a particular form."

Summer Showers in Brindavan 1978 www.sssbpt.info/summershowers/ss1978/ss1978-06.pdf
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David
David2015-12-29 02:44#
The people at Muddenahalli and Madhusudanji are doing whatever Baba is telling them to do. If you have doubts or if you don't like something that they do, you should complain to Baba (He is always listening, so don't worry that He will not hear). Whatever Baba asks them to do, it must have good reasons. If it is bothering you so much, I suggest you attend anymore events at Muddenahalli, if you are lucky Sai may appear to you directly.
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Vidya
Vidya2015-11-15 05:40#
Sai ram Karthikeyan,
Along with the above dates, would u also consider another Friday March 23, 2016 esp since you have mentioned mother Mary. There's a ws - after the warning 2016 - which discusses the mother speaking about some future events. Another thing I have this article on my reading list - how do we know the date after the warning 2016. But day be4 yesterday , for a few minutes it appeared as Sai Thy Kingdom after the warning 2016. I rubbed my eyes in disbelief but there it was !
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saisarannaga
saisarannaga2015-11-16 04:01#
Sairam! We are all very anxious observing the turn of evil forces everywhere. Nature also unleashes its fury everywhere. The continuous down pour in Tamilnadu and other places seems to point out to the one theory; Swami's immanent arrival soon on the world. We all await Swami. Swami come soon to halt the march of the terrorism everywhere!
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Vidya
Vidya2015-11-15 05:52#
I would like to add something - a devotee had heard Chaitra month from Swami( time of return). In 2016 , Chaitra month starts on march 24 , according to North Indian calendar. So maybe He will return on March 25 which is also Good Friday
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Vidya
Vidya2015-11-15 07:37#
Sorry it should be march 25 ,2016 not March 23
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KARTHIKEYAN
KARTHIKEYAN2015-11-15 17:16#
ThankYou sister Vidya For the Information. Surely i will look that date and try to find information about March 25
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saisarannaga
saisarannaga2015-11-17 04:35#
Sairam! None can understand Swami's words and ways. We take things literally all the time, which leads to great confusion. Can we restrict Bagawan with our scales? It will be utter foolishness to measure the ocean by a small ant. Mind and intellect can never reach the realm of Self. Hence never judge any being in this world with one's prejudices. Swami always wants us not to judge or form opinion about others. In fact, the so called others are our own selves. Om Sri Sai Ram.
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Joy
Joy2015-11-18 01:25#
'Standing on the rock, you cannot lift it! Standing in Maayaa, you cannot discard it.'

"Your worldly 'intelligence cannot fathom the ways of God. He cannot be recognised by mere cleverness, which is what your intelligence mostly is. You may benefit from God, but you cannot explain Him. You may benefit from electricity, and use it in a thousand ways, but you cannot explore and explain its mystery. How it works so and why it works so and not in any other way, is beyond your ken. Your explanations are merely guesses, attempts to clothe your ignorance in pompous expressions. The mistake is, you give the brain more value than it deserves. The Parathathwa (Supreme Truth) is beyond the reach of the brain; standing on the rock, you cannot lift it! Standing in Maayaa, you cannot discard it."

Prashaanthi Nilayam, 9-10-1964 www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume04/sss04-30.pdf
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saisarannaga
saisarannaga2015-11-19 03:34#
Sairam! No two persons are alike and even within oneself, different thoughts arise during different times. Hence let us not bother about the differences and think about Swami alone and His imminent arrival. Om Sri Sai Ram.
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KARTHIKEYAN
KARTHIKEYAN2015-11-22 18:43#
"Be confident that you will be liberated. Know that you are saved. Many hesitate to believe that things will improve, that life will be happy for all and full of joy, and that the golden age will recur. Let me assure you that this dharmaswarupa, that this divine body, has not come in vain. It will succeed in averting the crisis that has come upon humanity."

Divine Discourse: November 23, 1968
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Vasundhara devi
Vasundhara devi2015-12-14 13:28#
Sairam! Love Swami's uncertainty & have patience. Wait..wait...... ( in the mean time better not judge either MDH people or Parthi people. Have faith in Swami. It is all His Leela. Enjoy & LOVE ALL) Sai Love..
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Vasundhara devi
Vasundhara devi2015-12-14 13:29#
Sai Ram!
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Latha Sairam
Latha Sairam2015-12-18 16:11#
"With the start of Margashira Suddha Navami Many strange things will spread
Within Margashira Shuddha Purnima
The Lady's (earth) burdens will be finished"

Source: Sri Vasantha Sai's Sacred Nadi readings
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Apurva
Apurva2015-12-19 13:47#
Today is margashira shuddha navami... dec 25 is shuddha poornima.
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