Have Patience, Have Faith


By Tatiana Mineeva

Tatiana Mineeva is from Russia and currently lives in Puttaparthi. It is difficult to find another devotee who has as much conviction in Swami’s Reappearance as Tatiana. Since Swami left His body, Tatiana has been telling every Sai devotee whom she meets, not to believe in His Maya “disappearance” and that He will be back in the same Sathya Sai form. Tatiana, along with Veronika Kravtsova and Natalia Kosareva, was instrumental in getting Sai Thy Kingdom Come translated to Russian and spreading the book and the belief of His Reappearance among Russian speaking devotees. In this article (originally written in Russian and translated to English by Veronika Kravtsova), Tatiana expresses her strong faith in His Reappearance and narrates an incredible experience that she had, which points to Swami’s return.

(This article is being presented as a letter written by Tatiana to Sreejith)

I have been waiting for our beloved Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to manifest Himself in the form that is visible to us and give His Darshan, ever since the moment He was in the hospital. I do believe that everything that we are now witnessing is His Divine Leela. I am sure that He will ‘return’ in His Sri Sathya Sai Baba Avatar form and I keep telling this to all the Russian Sai devotees whom I meet in Puttaparthi (where I have been staying for a number of years). I find that there are many people who share this conviction with you and me. After your book had been published and sold in Puttaparthi, their number started increasing. I recommend everybody to buy and read your book and I am so grateful that it exists!

I am sure that whatever Swami said is bound to happen and is the Truth. He is the Avatar!  It is not correct to diminish Him by thinking that He is a human being with a human body. He told Hislop that the whole Universe and all the billions of living beings in it are just in that thumb of His! He said: “Everything is in this hand!" He told one lady from California in an interview in the 80s:“What you see in front of you is not a usual human body: there is nothing but Jyoti (Light) behind this skin, no usual human organs, no kidneys, no liver, nothing!”. He also said that He did not depend on the five elements out of which our human bodies consisted; the five elements depended on Him for their existence. He said that each moment millions of Universes were created and destroyed in His causal body. 

In one of His latest discourses Swami shared one episode. When Sri Satyajit was cleaning Swami’s bathroom, he found one of His hairs, picked it up and put it in a box. Later that box exploded. Baba said: “Don’t think that anything that has to do with the Avatar is ordinary!”

I am thinking: how could it possibly be that Swami allowed to put Himself in a hospital, allowed the doctors there to touch Him, to operate on Him?! It all seemed so absurd and remained a mystery until I found something that gave me a clue and that I would like to share with you.

Swami once shared a story about Lord Rama. Before Ravana came to steal Mother Sita, Lord Rama had said to Her: “You know with what mission We have come. Now it is time for you to go into the fire and stay with Agni Deva!” She did what Rama told Her to do and stayed with Agni Deva. Maya Sita, that looked exactly like Her, stayed in Her place. When Ravana came, he stole Maya Sita and not the real Sita. The real Sita was never taken away! When Lord Rama killed Ravana and Maya Sita came back, He told Her to step into the fire, creating this Leela that shocked people. Maya Sita stepped into the fire and the real Sita (who had been safe with Agni Deva, having been His guest all this time) came out.

Perhaps our beloved Swami has NEVER been to the hospital! He has NEVER been operated on, He has NEVER left His body, nothing wrong has ever happened to Him! This could all be just His Leela, a drama played by Him for some very important purpose that only He knows about! He could still be in His body that is quite young and healthy, hiding from us and watching each of us and guiding us and showering His Love on us – and will show Himself to us again very soon in all His glory, revealing at least SOME of His Divinity to us to transform us and the entire world!

I would also like to share ONE OF MY DREAMS with you. In your book, you quote Swami who spoke about lifting a whole mountain range, not just one mountain Govardhana as Lord Krishna did. You mention in the book that "Swami could have been using a metaphor to explain the enormity of His task. However, with Swami anything is possible!".

The dream is about something that I believe is bound to happen. It has to do with some time and conditions when Swami will really do it on a PHYSICAL level.

Before I share this dream with you I want to tell you that I PERSONALLY heard Swami talking about His lifting mountain range in His discourse on Sri Krishna Janmashtami and I heard Him saying that it would happen during the life span of THIS AVATAR. 

“Formerly when the Govardhanagiri was raised aloft by the little boy, the gopees and gopaalas realised that Krishna was the Lord. Now, it is not one Govardhanagiri, a whole range will be lifted, you will see! Have patience, have faith”. - Sathya Sai Speaks Volume 3 Chapter 15

Some people had debates with me after we have heard it: they couldn’t believe that it would happen on the physical level and thought that it was a metaphor. I told them that Krishna had done it on a physical level and that because of this manifestation of His Divinity not only many people were saved from a terrible disaster, but their devotion and faith were also raised to a new level. Swami could do the same with all of us, but now it could be on a global scale.

Here is my dream that I saw in 2004 after this conversation with my friends had taken place. It was a very vivid dream that I remember very clearly.

The dream

I am in a Darshan place (that doesn’t look exactly like Sai Kulwant Hall, it’s a bit different) and Baba is giving His Darshan. Baba’s students are singing a Bhajan about Govardhanagiri. I am sitting in the front row. Baba comes up to me and asks: “What are they singing about?” I answer; “They are singing about Govardhanagiri, about Krishna having lifted it". I suddenly remember what Swami had said in His Discourse and my dispute with Sai friends. So I say to Him:

“Swami, can I ask You a question?” He looks straight at me and answers: “Of course, you can!” I ask: “You told us that You would lift a mountain range. Will it happen on the symbolic level?”

Swami says: “Yes!”  

I feel disappointed and I think: “Oh, it’s only a metaphor!” Then He looks straight into my eyes and says: “And on the physical level, too!”

All of a sudden everything disappears. I find myself in a strange place that is difficult for me to describe: some kind of space with nothing in it. I can’t see anybody or anything, but I am overwhelmed by a most strong feeling that I have never ever experienced or imagined before, something for which the words of our human language are too small to embrace it. Terror, horror, anguish, despair, agony are all too small to fit this feeling. It is a state of an awful shock. I know that I am witnessing something: some kind of events happening around me in this environment. Each cell and atom of my body feels and senses and knows what is going on.

I can’t stand it even for a short time and I begin to cry as loudly as I can: “Swami!!! Swami!!! I want to be with You!!!”

My state transforms at once, this feeling stops and I hear Swami’s voice that is cosmic and fills the whole space around: “When God finishes His Leela, it always happens!”

I wake up and open my eyes.

I did not share this dream with anyone for a long time, because I thought that it was not the right time to do it. Perhaps the right time has come!

I do not know what is in store for us, time will show it. I only believe that whatever Swami says is the Truth and will happen JUST THE WAY HE SAID they would. I also believe in His immense Love and Grace and that we’ll always be together.

Thank you for all the work you are doing, for being willing to be Swami’s instrument, it is such a support for me and many people whom I know. I wish you all the best! May all be happy! 

Comments 

Naren
Naren2014-09-30 05:38#
Amazing article!

What is incredible to me is, last night I was speaking to my friend over phone and insisting that Swami will come back. Although we talk about this frequently, for the first time, I disclosed one of my rather 'crazy' beliefs. I said Swami will indeed lift a whole range which will not be symbolic but on a physical level. This is one particular statement that I would take literally. I told him it was my gut feeling and perhaps there are other statements of His where He gives a metaphor. But this one, for some reason, cannot even imagine being only a metaphor. And today, through this article, Swami seems to have corroborated my faith.

Sairam
Naren
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SAMY
SAMY2014-09-30 08:15#
OM SRI SAIRAM
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Joy
Joy2014-10-20 03:42#
Tatiana's wonderful letter reminded me of an incident mentioned on the video of an Australian group's visit to Prasanthi Nilayam in the early 1990s.

In an Interview, (which followed a series of miracles, including Swami appearing to one family member in Australia, while another was interacting with Him in Prasanthi), a devotee bent his head down to touch Swami's Feet but his hands could not locate the Divine Feet. He felt down all around under His Robe and right up to His knees but…..
THERE WAS NO LEG THERE! Baba then tapped him on the head and said: 'Get up. That's enough!' and the feet reappeared.

Swami was again demonstrating that He can materialise and dematerialise His Body at Will, to be physically in more than one place at a time or even 'partly' present if He so Wills.

Those who have read 'Autobiography of a Yogi' will recall 'The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar' three months after He had died and been buried. Paramhansa Yogananda spoke to His Guru:
“O Master, I was grieving so deeply about your death!”
“Ah, wherein did I die? Isn’t there some contradiction?” Sri Yukteswar’s eyes were twinkling with love and amusement.
“You were only dreaming on earth; on that earth you saw my dream-body,” he went on. “Later you buried that dream-image."

Tatiana Mineeva rightly said about Baba: "It is not correct to diminish Him by thinking that He is a human being with a human body." and Swami Himself stated: "“What you see in front of you is not a usual human body: there is nothing but Jyoti (Light) behind this skin, no usual human organs, no kidneys, no liver, nothing!”
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Jim Martineau
Jim Martineau2014-10-29 04:28#
These are good thoughts. Valid for me in many ways. Thank you.
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A.R.Chauhan
A.R.Chauhan2014-11-09 17:02#
Madam Tatian's article reinforces our faith more and more. Let us all pray for the great
event to happen in near future. Sai Ram.
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chitra
chitra2015-01-10 11:37#
Thank you for this beautiful article.I agree with you that even when he was in wheel cheir not coming out very much I thought to my self this is not real Swami only body is suffering .Like Rama he was in" divyaloka" leaving the body here.
I am sure of His coming in to a much younger form

Sai Ram
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Sai Das
Sai Das2015-01-10 16:52#
“What you see in front of you is not a usual human body: there is nothing but Jyoti (Light) behind this skin, no usual human organs, no kidneys, no liver, nothing!”

I'm not doubting Swami's words of course, but I am curious as to how this squares with the fact that Swami had heart surgery and dialysis before leaving His body.
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paraeighteen
paraeighteen2015-01-11 16:41#
Dear Sai Das,
...Maybe the medical procedures were undergone by the 'Maya Body'...
Also,am reminded of an interesting story, Swami loved to recount about how faith should be.The story goes like this-
Once,Krishna and Arjuna were going together along an open road. Seeing a bird in the sky Krishna asked Arjuna, ''Is that a dove?''Arjuna replied, ''Yes it is a dove.''''Or is it an eagle?''Krishna asked Arjuna. Arjuna relied promptly,''Yes it is an eagle''.''No Arjuna it looks like a crow to me, is it not a crow?''Arjuna replied,''I am sorry, it is a crow beyond doubt.''Krishna laughed and chided him to agreeing to whatever suggestion was given. Arjuna replied,''For me your words are far more weighty than the evidence of my eyes:You can make it a crow dove or eagle, and when you say it is a crow, it must be one.''

So, whatever Swami says must be so.....

Sairam, with love,
Para..18
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Joy
Joy2015-01-11 00:36#
“When God finishes His Leela, it always happens!” Cosmic Play - Divine Actor - Perfect Timing!

"Like all Avatars, Krishna announced his advent to the world, bit by bit, step by step, testing every time how far the Reality will be accepted by the masses. The signs and miracles were intended, then as now, to proclaim the Avatar."
Krishna Janmaashtami, 28.7.1967 www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-25.pdf

"....., the Lord, when He has assumed a role in the Cosmic play, has to act in each situation according to what is appropriate to it and according to the rules of the game."

"Even though the Divine has come down as an actor on the world stage, He is biding for the proper time to play His full role. A fruit takes time to ripen. When the fruit is ripe it falls down of its own accord."
Birthday Discourse 1994. www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume27/sss27-31.pdf
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Mark Blayney
Mark Blayney2015-01-11 02:03#
Like a magnet attracts metal Swami's Diving Love is attracting me more & more to experience thoughts of Him such that I feel my very Being as His only. Without effort, who can resist ? He is manifesting where & how He alone wills. Sai Ram.
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Joy
Joy2015-01-13 01:17#
A Landmark Discourse: Gurupournima Day 6.7.1963
www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume03/sss03-15.pdf

There is much more to contemplate in the same Divine Discourse where Swami's spoke these Words which were mentioned by Tatiana:
"Now, it is not one Govardhanagiri, a whole range will be lifted, you will see! Have patience, have faith."
That Discourse came on the occasion when Baba cured Himself of a stroke.
He also made other powerful, significant declarations in that same Discourse which should not be forgotten:

"THIS is not Swaami's illness; this is an illness which Swaami has taken on, in order to save some one. Swaami has no illness, nor will He get ill at any time.
You must all be happy; that alone will make Swaami happy. If you grieve, Swaami will not be happy. Your joy is Swaami's food."

"The splendour of this Avathaara will go increasing, day by day. Formerly when the Govardhanagiri was raised aloft by the little boy, the gopees and gopaalas realised that Krishna was the Lord. Now, it is not one Govardhanagiri, a whole range will be lifted, you will see! Have patience, have faith."

On the following day, 7.7.1963, Swami again assured His devotees:

"Let Me tell you that nothing evil can affect Me. Nothing can harm Me. I am the Master, the Shakthi (Power) that overpowers everything else."

www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume03/sss03-16.pdf
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lrao
lrao2015-01-14 06:07#
Aum Sai Ram. I have been listening to the wonderful video clips of Radiosai's interview with the late Sri Raja Reddy garu - a devotee who stayed with Swami for many many decades. The interview was recorded in 2007. Sri Raja Reddy has seen Swami's glory from close quarters and has spent time with him for decades. He repeatedly says in the video clips: "the instruments we have to analyze Swami are too crude....He is infinity....He is beyond our analysis.....We will be swept off our feet if we try to analyze Him".....do see all the 8 clips of Radiosai interview with this wonderful gentleman. They are an amazing glimpse into the divinity that is our Swami.

Sairam
lrao
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S.NAGARAJAN
S.NAGARAJAN2015-01-15 07:06#
It is a wonder that only a few people are blessed with such experiences. Let the Leela of Swami unfold, the entire world will be at his feet. While in the physical form, Swami has clarified, if people come to know of the Avatar, the entire world will throng to Puttaparthi. I deliberately stop such happening. In the same way he had declared later, that the entire world will be here and there won't be any standing space even. The entire Chitravathi river will be filled with human heads trying to get a glimpse of his red robe. Of course one can see only a speck of it.
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Bruno
Bruno2018-04-15 18:29#
HERMOSO !!! OM SAI RAM !!!
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Ashish K. Kochargaonkar
Ashish K. Kochargaonkar2019-09-18 07:00#
Madam Tatiana Thanks lot for wobderful and enlightenining insight.Bhagwan's words are indeed Beyond Veda Upnaishada. From Him only all Universes originates and only those Totally enlightened souls like Arjuna realised this.As you rightly pointed out that in Bhagwan every moment universes are created and destroyed. Bhagwan who is Light of all Lights and from whom all creations are born sustained and merged.Samastha Loka Sukhino Bhavantu. Samastha Jeeva Sukhino Bhavantu.
Om Sri Sai Ram. Our Loving Pranams to the Lotus Feet of Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
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